Ep.11 | Craig "Noddy" Radford | Dhufish on Fly, Trigg Point Tripod Fishing & BIG Spanish Mackerel

Welcome to The Rodcast! — the unfiltered, salt-crusted fishing podcast based out of The Wild West of Australia

In this episode we’re joined by  Craig Radford a.k.a, Noddy. 

Noddy is somewhat of a fishing encyclopedia which he shows in this Episode of The Rodcast. He is mainly known for cracking the code of Dhufish on Fly gear, but has a wealth of knowledge using conventional tackle that he gained from spending time around some incredible mentors such as Hal Harvey, Ron Pearson, Mike Roennfeldt, Ross Cusack & Ron Johnson just to name a few….

In this Episode Lecca, Rothy talk to Craig "Noddy" Radford about…

• Noddy’s early fishing mentors
• Tripod fishing at the Trigg Point Blue Hole for Tailor, Salmon, Snapper and spotting Mulloway in the surf.
• Making home made wooden lures out of Mum’s broom sticks
• Early Trips to Steep Point with Hal Harvey & co at 17 years old
• Working at Mike Roennfeldt’s tackle store - “The Tackle Box”
• Pioneering Dhufish on fly fishing gear with his son, Adam, using sinking fly lines.
• Yellowfin Tuna off Carnarvon
• Fishing Photography
• Catching a 39.5kg Spanish Mackerel that ended up on the cover of Western Angler + a piece of golden advice for Fishos wanting to increase their chances of catching a massive Mackie…

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Transcript

00:00:00:00 - 00:00:17:14
Speaker 1
All right, let's go. We're back for the podcast. I don't know what episode we're at now. I think 10 or 11. Yeah, it's been a bit of a blur. My mind's a little bit. A bit of mush with, all the info that we're getting, but, like, today, we've got another repeat guest. We've got Craig naughty Radford in the hot seat.

00:00:17:14 - 00:00:22:20
Speaker 1
Thank you for joining us, mate. This is going to be a wicked chat. I'm super excited of what?

00:00:22:22 - 00:00:25:08
Speaker 2
Yeah yeah I'm pumped for this.

00:00:25:10 - 00:00:41:02
Speaker 1
So, yeah, this, Noddy has a very rich fishing history, and, we're going to hopefully tap into a little bit of that absolute impossible to do that over and out period. But, Mike, we got plenty of questions for ya. But, yeah, we we start off with, how how have you been gone that you've been fishing a little bit?

00:00:41:02 - 00:00:47:17
Speaker 1
What do you mean? What do you been up to?

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Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:00:57:12 - 00:01:03:19
Speaker 1
Yeah. Nice.

00:01:03:21 - 00:01:08:10
Speaker 2
Follow this thread.

00:01:08:12 - 00:01:09:15
Speaker 1
Been there, done that.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. That's.

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Speaker 1
There you go.

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Speaker 2
I mean, that a.

00:01:39:19 - 00:01:56:05
Speaker 1
Yeah, we've got enough. I was having a yarn with your son, Adam, so I should probably touch on that. So the. My link to naughty is I actually went to school with Craig's kids. I went to school with your daughter, Olivia. She was a year the year older than me at school at South Poppy there. And then Adam, your son, who you fish with a lot.

00:01:56:10 - 00:02:23:22
Speaker 1
And, my brother Sam, a great mates and Adam was actually sort of the first kid I would say that I realize was like a pretty hardcore fisherman and came from a fishing family. So. Yeah. Yeah. So I remember when I sort of figured it out, there was there was two young lads. Andrew Brown replied with that. So Andrew Fish with his dad, Neil and I knew that, Adam fish with you a lot and every time that I talked about fishing, Adam always had a story to what up?

00:02:23:22 - 00:02:43:17
Speaker 1
Make sense? I fucked it out. Shut up. Fit it. Finish off. But, I remember this one. I remember this one particular day where Sam came home after school on a Friday, and he. This is my my brother. So I have two brothers, Josh and Sam. Sam came home and said, oh, I'm going fishing tomorrow. And he kind of had this bit of smug about him.

00:02:43:18 - 00:03:04:04
Speaker 1
You guys, I'm going with Craig and Adam that I'll fucking enjoy yourself there. That what? I remember being pretty jealous and he came back that afternoon. And of course, you're you're you're big in your photos, Craig, much like myself and, Sam came home with a Tyler that was bigger than any of that. I'd caught up into that point, and he came home with a wicked photo to match, which you actually just pulled up on your iPad just then.

00:03:04:06 - 00:03:21:09
Speaker 1
So that was sort of my first sort of intro to God. Hang on. I should probably pay attention to that to these guys. Yeah. That's kind of how I got to know Noddy and obviously met you down at the footy a lot local footy. So.

00:03:21:11 - 00:03:25:02
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.

00:03:25:04 - 00:03:27:08
Speaker 1
Yeah. Nice.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. He's.

00:04:01:24 - 00:04:37:22
Speaker 1
Invasive species.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:04:56:08 - 00:05:08:14
Speaker 2
Hahahahaha!

00:05:08:16 - 00:05:55:04
Speaker 1
Off the surface.

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Speaker 2
Hahahahaha!

00:05:56:20 - 00:06:21:20
Speaker 1
It's full Australiana. I can imagine they pictures.

00:06:21:22 - 00:06:52:19
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Bluewater. Tackle. Oh, wow. His dad? Yeah.

00:06:52:21 - 00:07:41:24
Speaker 1
Yeah. Another iconic. Yeah. Another iconic book.

00:07:42:01 - 00:08:20:19
Speaker 2
That's a.

00:08:20:21 - 00:09:00:04
Speaker 1
Well, what were some of the names that, You know, synonymous with those in the nice? Yeah.

00:09:00:06 - 00:09:15:20
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. My. One of my dad's great mates start interject there at one of my dad's great mates. Kerry Whitford. He got married on that block, so he was part of the trick. Junior border. Trick Boardriders worked for my dad back in the day, and he married his wife, Carol, up on that hill and made my brothers of theirs as.

00:09:15:22 - 00:09:25:07
Speaker 1
That's,

00:09:25:09 - 00:09:34:13
Speaker 1
So that that they were older than you. They Russ Cusack in that. Yeah.

00:09:34:15 - 00:10:04:24
Speaker 1
Yeah. Good innings.

00:10:05:01 - 00:10:22:03
Speaker 1
I wonder if you ever met. My granddad died. Dave. Max dead. So he's. He was George Holman and him were two peas in a pod. Two best mates. And I, you know, of George Holman.

00:10:22:05 - 00:10:32:22
Speaker 2
Yeah. Okay.

00:10:32:24 - 00:11:23:12
Speaker 1
I did not know that. I'm going to have to try and track that down.

00:11:23:14 - 00:12:21:00
Speaker 1
Well, that would have been heavy. I.

00:12:21:02 - 00:12:27:20
Speaker 1
And Big Tyler, too. This is massive. Tyler! Out the back of that ref.

00:12:27:22 - 00:12:31:22
Speaker 2
Wow.

00:12:31:24 - 00:12:38:21
Speaker 1
What sort of length are we talking here?

00:12:38:23 - 00:12:40:02
Speaker 1
Yeah, a big.

00:12:40:02 - 00:12:50:15
Speaker 2
Fish.

00:12:50:17 - 00:12:52:08
Speaker 2
Wow. So the.

00:12:52:08 - 00:12:53:08
Speaker 1
Fork that probably.

00:12:53:08 - 00:12:54:03
Speaker 2
Would have.

00:12:54:05 - 00:13:15:07
Speaker 1
Come close to a meter. That. Yeah. There is, I, to my early 20s, I was still surfing down at Trig Point a lot. There's. I think he's, like Russian or something. There's this crazy. Yeah. Yet super pissed off at all the surf. It's like he'll coast straight into that. Yeah, like hooker surfer and pull them in.

00:13:15:08 - 00:13:18:02
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah.

00:13:18:04 - 00:13:31:16
Speaker 1
Yeah. Not. Did you ever encounter any Malloy of the tropics?

00:13:31:18 - 00:13:57:22
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:13:57:24 - 00:14:25:01
Speaker 1
The plaque still that at that or the concrete is when the when it gets. Yeah, but the plaque is gone.

00:14:25:03 - 00:14:37:00
Speaker 1
Yeah, right. And you say the boat shed because there was shacks on the beach at that time, too. Is that correct, or am I okay?

00:14:37:02 - 00:14:42:15
Speaker 2
Okay, yeah.

00:14:42:17 - 00:15:13:20
Speaker 1
Amazing photos. They're very nostalgic for me. That's big points. A massive part of my childhood. So yes. And that was really cool.

00:15:13:22 - 00:15:48:12
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:15:48:14 - 00:15:56:23
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:15:57:00 - 00:16:00:23
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:16:01:00 - 00:16:08:18
Speaker 1
Yeah. Jack O'Neill invented the wetsuit. Or thinking, 50s. 60s. My dad works very new now, so I know the history behind that. Yeah.

00:16:08:18 - 00:16:23:09
Speaker 2
So.

00:16:23:11 - 00:16:43:13
Speaker 1
Fishing was your biology class.

00:16:43:15 - 00:16:59:14
Speaker 1
Bread and butter.

00:16:59:16 - 00:17:33:02
Speaker 2
Yeah. Okay.

00:17:33:04 - 00:17:36:16
Speaker 2
Cool. Where did.

00:17:36:18 - 00:17:50:22
Speaker 1
Yeah. And from that vantage point to, like, the things that you see, it's not necessarily what you catch, you know, from the beach, you'd probably seeing more. So what you catch and what you can see in the waves. But being at vantage point, they were the baddies where like, like you just said you saw a mile away swim past that.

00:17:50:24 - 00:18:03:19
Speaker 1
That's pretty cool.

00:18:21:13 - 00:18:37:24
Speaker 1
It's a heavy spot a lot of people have. Jan, was that, I might be wrong. I've heard stories of, the government or whatever blowing it up to stop it from.

00:18:38:01 - 00:18:40:12
Speaker 1
Yeah, I know madams, they did.

00:18:40:14 - 00:18:46:05
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:18:46:07 - 00:18:47:14
Speaker 2
Well, on.

00:18:47:16 - 00:19:11:00
Speaker 1
That actually use that blowhole at Trig lock. It's it's pretty much a no paddle zone. You can jump in if you surf and you don't want to paddle through the surf, you just jump in the blue hole and it sweeps you out.

00:19:11:02 - 00:19:37:05
Speaker 1
Yeah. I've pulled some good salmon out of that hole. Yeah. Wicked. Where did lower fishing come in the picture for you, Greg?

00:19:37:07 - 00:19:42:24
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:19:43:01 - 00:20:12:24
Speaker 1
Yeah. And how did that come into play for you over here?

00:20:13:01 - 00:20:13:22
Speaker 1
Off you went.

00:20:13:24 - 00:20:51:21
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:20:51:23 - 00:20:56:03
Speaker 1
Yeah. Say, hey. I get.

00:20:56:05 - 00:21:12:05
Speaker 1
I think there's a sea hag in there. Actually. My granddad's little bucket.

00:21:25:07 - 00:21:32:21
Speaker 2
Yeah. Single use.

00:21:32:23 - 00:21:53:23
Speaker 1
I was just thinking then my perspective. I have never made it to the.

00:21:54:00 - 00:22:04:12
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:22:07:09 - 00:22:29:03
Speaker 1
The information is so accessible, and that's probably a big thing I want to touch on with your Noddy. So you've got gone to Fish and Lewis and, I believe sort of through your 20s, you. I listen to you on another podcast, the Fly Fishing podcast, and. Yeah, the thing that you said was, in your 20s, lads were either out chasing girls, chasing fish, and you were chasing fish.

00:22:29:05 - 00:23:23:08
Speaker 1
That. Tell us about when that started. When you actually started to leave the metro area. Maybe you got your license or whatever and start exploring where let's start.

00:23:23:10 - 00:23:33:03
Speaker 1
In, That's. Yeah. And with the people. Like, the night going with Hal. And, you know.

00:23:33:05 - 00:24:42:02
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:24:42:04 - 00:25:07:23
Speaker 2
Okay.

00:25:08:00 - 00:25:10:22
Speaker 1
We'll think about the cars, the tackle.

00:25:10:24 - 00:25:28:04
Speaker 2
You know.

00:25:28:06 - 00:25:48:12
Speaker 2
Cool.

00:25:55:04 - 00:26:03:15
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:26:03:17 - 00:26:19:15
Speaker 1
There's no one obviously trying to get out there and wagons or anything like that. So it was, wasn't an option.

00:26:19:17 - 00:26:31:10
Speaker 1
I've never been. I've never been a state.

00:26:31:12 - 00:26:45:11
Speaker 2
What? Oh, shit. Oh.

00:26:45:13 - 00:26:53:12
Speaker 2
For making it.

00:26:53:14 - 00:26:59:11
Speaker 2
Filming.

00:26:59:13 - 00:27:29:14
Speaker 1
That's pretty funny.

00:27:29:16 - 00:27:38:03
Speaker 2
What? It was. Well, the idling, got,

00:27:38:05 - 00:28:09:02
Speaker 1
Yeah. For sure. It's naturally it's going to come up like, not a your, you know. Yeah. You're very well known around. I think Australia is for, for particular techniques that you've, sort of developed, really pioneered I guess, or taken from other people and put your own spin on them. We just say.

00:28:09:04 - 00:29:22:18
Speaker 1
Oh, okay. Well that's cool.

00:29:22:20 - 00:29:24:08
Speaker 1
I've got that here to touch on it.

00:29:24:09 - 00:29:50:03
Speaker 2
Yeah, sure.

00:29:50:05 - 00:29:56:15
Speaker 2
Potential.

00:29:56:17 - 00:29:58:00
Speaker 1
It would have been no one there.

00:29:58:00 - 00:31:05:07
Speaker 2
I.

00:31:05:09 - 00:31:08:15
Speaker 1
The lot of money back then.

00:32:42:06 - 00:32:42:16
Speaker 2
Cool.

00:32:42:17 - 00:32:48:19
Speaker 1
Yeah. I have to show you that. If you got it. So you've landed a crop? Technically.

00:33:15:24 - 00:33:17:02
Speaker 1
Long time.

00:33:17:04 - 00:33:39:05
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:33:39:07 - 00:33:41:14
Speaker 2
Wicked.

00:33:41:16 - 00:33:59:17
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. That would have been waiting in line. Yeah. You mentioned, the tackle box there. Shop that Mike Ryan felt, on. Craig, I want to touch on that because, I don't know too much about it well, before my time, but there's two shops that I know you worked out with. They the same shop I wanted.

00:33:59:19 - 00:34:07:24
Speaker 1
Okay, so you just move. So tell us about tell us about your experience there.

00:34:08:01 - 00:34:20:08
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:34:20:10 - 00:34:31:02
Speaker 2
Cool.

00:34:31:04 - 00:34:34:16
Speaker 1
You know, the squirts.

00:34:34:18 - 00:34:56:07
Speaker 2
All really say this like this. This is the spot.

00:34:56:09 - 00:35:00:01
Speaker 1
That's just clicking that fly real away, right next to a microphone. Yeah, I.

00:35:00:01 - 00:35:35:18
Speaker 2
Can hear you.

00:35:35:20 - 00:35:36:20
Speaker 1
Yeah. Okay.

00:35:36:22 - 00:35:42:07
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:35:42:09 - 00:35:49:00
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:35:49:02 - 00:36:02:06
Speaker 1
That's a pretty good segue. It's not something that I had here to touch. I had to roll list. Not even for touch points with you, mate, because there's so much to talk about, but. Well, the opportunities there. I want to ask you how were you fishing down the front at Waterman's at all in that area?

00:36:02:06 - 00:36:08:24
Speaker 2
You know.

00:36:09:01 - 00:36:26:05
Speaker 1
Yeah, that's what I was alluding to. Sir George, I spoke to you before we started recording. My granddad, George Holman was his best mate, and I heard tales of that being one of the best mile away sort of areas all the way from Serrano up to Pinner Point. Apparently, there was a gutter that ran the whole length of the beach.

00:36:26:10 - 00:36:53:18
Speaker 1
So how did you say that? Tell us about before that Marina, and how it changed when the Marina came.

00:36:53:20 - 00:37:00:02
Speaker 2
Oh.

00:37:00:04 - 00:37:02:13
Speaker 1
That's how you remembered him. Two days.

00:37:28:05 - 00:37:47:15
Speaker 1
Yeah. Granddad caught a. He wasn't a huge mallow I guy, he loved his tiler and stuff. But I know George purely because he's casting ability. Was able to hit certain areas that no one else could fish. So I always had heard stories of, you know, guys going down and having a donut session, and then George comes down at the end of the page.

00:37:47:17 - 00:38:07:18
Speaker 1
Yeah. So George, George, had a recorded casting distance at like this. So this is with mono. They had a recorded casting distance of around 160m average. Yeah. And it was purely old technique. So he was very well known for his casting abilities. Yeah. So I'd usually I've forgotten it today, but we'd hang a, shirt up there.

00:38:07:18 - 00:38:22:04
Speaker 1
Noddy. And it's my granddad. Surf cast and scouting and angling club shirt. Yeah. That I've now inherited. So I definitely got some mileage down there.

00:38:22:06 - 00:38:35:03
Speaker 1
Yeah, a little hot tip for people. It may or may not fish pretty good. Still in the in the in the bad weather.

00:38:35:05 - 00:38:40:05
Speaker 1
There is in. That's a big fish. Got a big.

00:38:40:05 - 00:38:41:17
Speaker 2
Red.

00:38:41:19 - 00:39:00:14
Speaker 1
Rudolph nose on a massive fish.

00:39:00:16 - 00:39:53:18
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:39:53:20 - 00:40:01:13
Speaker 1
I feel like I lost my sort of before I started fishing heaps with you. Like, I fished with my mate Anton Pipe. And I lost him to fly fishing.

00:40:01:15 - 00:40:02:14
Speaker 2
And.

00:40:02:16 - 00:40:52:07
Speaker 1
But he doesn't think of spin rod off anymore. He just, like, fly fishing on top.

00:40:52:09 - 00:41:41:19
Speaker 1
So you try to dive.

00:41:41:21 - 00:42:05:11
Speaker 1
Yeah. Even now, it's, like, not really a popular thing to fly and tackle shop. You got Nedlands and you got a dedicated. Yeah, yeah. Fly fishing outfitters.

00:42:05:13 - 00:42:25:19
Speaker 2
Yeah. Bushy.

00:42:25:21 - 00:42:30:06
Speaker 1
Tackle for tackle. That's a cool name.

00:42:30:08 - 00:42:47:00
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:42:47:02 - 00:42:50:05
Speaker 1
Yeah! Kim. Shout out to Kim. Bloody legend.

00:42:50:07 - 00:42:52:04
Speaker 2
Yeah!

00:42:52:06 - 00:43:08:03
Speaker 1
Daddy, I didn't know that. Kim's a very humble man. He doesn't. He won't like. Yeah. He doesn't talk it off and like he'll answer any question I've got to name now and.

00:43:08:05 - 00:43:09:19
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Gotcha.

00:43:09:21 - 00:45:14:13
Speaker 2
I'll ask him about it. I.

00:45:14:15 - 00:45:42:07
Speaker 1
Adam told me to ask you about this, too, because you had, your. He became your brother in law. Chrono. He said that you and him had a very, almost a sixth sense with each other on how to fish for those fish out of there. And.

00:45:42:09 - 00:45:48:00
Speaker 1
Everyone was going to kick 12.

00:45:48:02 - 00:45:49:23
Speaker 1
Dick at.

00:46:07:18 - 00:46:40:15
Speaker 2
Right.

00:46:40:17 - 00:46:58:22
Speaker 2
So. Yeah.

00:46:58:24 - 00:47:03:09
Speaker 1
Well, this is yellowfin.

00:47:03:11 - 00:47:38:13
Speaker 2
You know.

00:47:38:15 - 00:47:45:07
Speaker 1
Yeah. 1 to 1 ratio. Yeah. So you had to turn your hand 700 times. Pretty much.

00:47:45:09 - 00:48:03:02
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:48:03:04 - 00:48:29:06
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:48:29:08 - 00:48:41:17
Speaker 1
So what? At it. What Adam said to me was that you took a lot of people out there. Friends of yours, or people from overseas that might have been good fishermen. The only reason that they got those records that I now hold is because you and I were.

00:48:41:17 - 00:48:49:10
Speaker 2
On the boat. Yeah.

00:48:49:12 - 00:49:15:11
Speaker 1
The deck in the ship is just as important.

00:49:15:13 - 00:49:33:16
Speaker 2
Me too. Yeah, yeah.

00:49:33:18 - 00:49:44:12
Speaker 1
So, tipper, is is your effectively what have conventional fishermen call a leader?

00:49:44:14 - 00:49:45:23
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:49:46:00 - 00:49:48:01
Speaker 1
The eligible for a record?

00:49:48:03 - 00:49:51:10
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:49:51:12 - 00:50:02:02
Speaker 2
Okay.

00:50:02:04 - 00:50:40:22
Speaker 2
Oh, well. Yeah.

00:50:40:24 - 00:50:51:17
Speaker 1
Yeah. Because the bills are just. So guys talk a lot real quick. The terminology from the fly. You've then got.

00:50:51:19 - 00:50:54:17
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:50:54:19 - 00:51:06:16
Speaker 2
Okay.

00:51:06:18 - 00:51:09:01
Speaker 1
So they the sinks are floats.

00:51:09:03 - 00:51:36:12
Speaker 2
There you go.

00:51:36:14 - 00:51:45:20
Speaker 1
Oh, so you got that flex as it goes from back that way.

00:51:45:22 - 00:51:47:10
Speaker 1
You know, what's the code, man?

00:51:47:10 - 00:51:54:12
Speaker 2
The line men to the line.

00:51:54:14 - 00:52:29:11
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:52:40:08 - 00:53:07:23
Speaker 1
All the actual spool.

00:53:08:00 - 00:53:16:24
Speaker 1
On, That's for.

00:53:17:01 - 00:53:22:17
Speaker 2
Yeah. Well, I. Yeah.

00:53:22:19 - 00:53:27:19
Speaker 1
Yeah. Well, lot like that is hard work. You know, you a that's what I can hear.

00:53:27:19 - 00:53:33:11
Speaker 2
By the way, when you're fiddling with this thing. Yeah, yeah, I like doing that.

00:53:33:12 - 00:53:37:11
Speaker 1
Like that. Even trying to keep a line tight if that fish is swimming towards you, like.

00:53:37:12 - 00:53:43:03
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's.

00:53:43:05 - 00:54:52:15
Speaker 2
A little.

00:54:52:17 - 00:55:11:06
Speaker 1
Yeah. Records of that to be bait and. You got a few of them? Yeah.

00:55:11:08 - 00:55:16:16
Speaker 2
Go ahead.

00:55:16:18 - 00:55:34:00
Speaker 1
A long time, yeah, they go hard. I caught a long tail. Q yes, and a yellowfin. Actually, in the same trip, probably three years ago now, I but not. And that yellowfin was probably probably ten kilo and. Holy. I actually had the rod cells on my tinnie. What happened? We went I'll tell a story of that day.

00:55:34:02 - 00:55:49:00
Speaker 1
We launched, at three mile. So first time it ever launched a three mile. You right in front of camp, you're back your boat down in, and then you got to get up this pretty steep Tony short, but it's very steep. Foggy. June, you got to get up. So launch there. We went up. Towards sort of Red bluff.

00:55:49:00 - 00:56:09:14
Speaker 1
We went south called Long Tail. That was wicked. Our bass. Enough on the tide change out the back turtles there. It was unreal. So. Cause we've good mate. Jimmy. He's got a really funny story about a boat name I'd love to call in one day. My other, my Andrew, who I've spoken about a number of times. We had a wicked session out there, and then, the following year, my missus wanted to come up, so took me.

00:56:09:16 - 00:56:25:16
Speaker 1
Actually, I think it was that year. Yeah. It was. She wanted to come up, so she flew out to Canal. We went and picked her up and whatnot. We went out again, got a cup of matches, sick. But on the way there, the the tide had dropped and, sure, it was pumping a lot, so I couldn't get my trailer down there to retrieve the boat.

00:56:25:18 - 00:56:37:01
Speaker 1
So I said to Andy, I'll drop you on the beach, drop you off and pray on the beach. You go and grab the car and I'll meet you around at the bay. So I went all the way around to the boats, about 15 k's by myself. I'm trolling on the way here.

00:56:37:03 - 00:56:38:08
Speaker 2
I put a.

00:56:38:10 - 00:56:59:23
Speaker 1
Lizard pro out the back, not really thinking I'd get much, and a yellowfin took it and I had the rod under this leg. So I was driving the the tiller and my hand there, and I had the rod resting underneath this knee and on top of this knee. And I had it in between my legs and this yellow fins here, and the fucking bright red straight up the middle of my fucking nutsack.

00:56:59:23 - 00:57:23:01
Speaker 1
Same and nearly, nearly fucking day. Not at me as it took off and went on this screen. Right. And I've got the whole thing on guy. Probably you'll crack up. Yeah. So I was wearing a GoPro on my head the whole time. Yeah, pretty funny story. But they go hard I can't, I can't, I can't if I died, I'm fortunate enough I had, I actually had, I actually had bought these on, believe it or not Craig, I wasn't natural in in the nude, but

00:57:23:03 - 00:57:24:09
Speaker 2
Yeah, that that.

00:57:24:11 - 00:57:32:17
Speaker 1
Fish went so fucking hard for how big it was. It's only ten kilo. I can't imagine what a 100.45 pound kilo one would do.

00:57:32:19 - 00:57:43:22
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:57:43:24 - 00:58:09:14
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:58:09:16 - 00:58:56:07
Speaker 1
Oh, wow. I just peeled off a lot.

00:58:56:09 - 01:00:38:07
Speaker 1
Pretty natural for you to move towards Julie. Right. Trying to target one. When you're in that area.

01:00:38:09 - 01:00:55:01
Speaker 1
Plaza. So really. Stick to in the water.

01:00:55:03 - 01:01:44:03
Speaker 1
Okay, so this is. Oh, so this is fucking pretty. So I graduated in 2012. Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah.

01:01:44:05 - 01:01:47:11
Speaker 1
Ends up being like a pattern. Easter egg. Yeah.

01:01:47:13 - 01:02:36:08
Speaker 2
Ugly.

01:02:36:10 - 01:02:46:23
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:02:47:00 - 01:02:54:18
Speaker 1
It would have been telling everybody in that shot. Hey. So passionate man. Adam. He's so passionate.

01:02:54:20 - 01:03:07:17
Speaker 2
And.

01:03:07:19 - 01:03:14:00
Speaker 1
Is that when you hook it? Or is that they entire fight?

01:03:14:02 - 01:03:19:04
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:03:19:06 - 01:03:33:02
Speaker 2
Okay, so.

01:03:33:04 - 01:03:53:06
Speaker 2
Gotcha.

01:03:53:08 - 01:04:01:20
Speaker 1
That's pretty cool. You've you've pioneered, Do you know of anyone else that was doing it before you actually.

01:04:02:17 - 01:04:07:04
Speaker 1
No one's going out there. Time. That's pretty cool thing.

01:04:07:06 - 01:04:22:05
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:04:22:07 - 01:04:29:03
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:04:29:05 - 01:04:40:11
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:04:40:13 - 01:04:53:02
Speaker 1
Yeah, that's pretty cool thing that pioneer Fisher. You like that? With your son that's got a feel. Feel pretty cool.

01:04:53:04 - 01:05:14:06
Speaker 1
Yeah. A lot of line. Well, yeah. Angling skill. You can't just go all bright and just reef a map. You gotta. You got to be. That's the difference between a fisherman and an angler, I think, is your angling skills are how you fight that fish with the finesse. Right?

01:05:14:08 - 01:05:29:09
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:05:29:11 - 01:05:33:16
Speaker 1
I'll bring up. Bring that up next, mate. Don't worry. That's a.

01:05:33:18 - 01:06:03:02
Speaker 2
Go. The.

01:06:03:04 - 01:06:50:05
Speaker 1
That's 12 pounds. That's nuts. Now, well, for all you. All you young crew that go off, pay that, pay 0.60.

01:07:13:03 - 01:07:19:13
Speaker 1
What pounds this pay.

01:07:19:15 - 01:07:31:05
Speaker 1
That pay. 1.2 for a good bride. Yeah. These days, it depends what brides you go. So super thin, cut your finger off.

01:07:31:07 - 01:07:33:02
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:07:33:04 - 01:07:34:20
Speaker 1
Yeah, the technology's crazy.

01:07:34:24 - 01:07:49:22
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:07:49:24 - 01:07:53:07
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. Full on.

01:07:53:09 - 01:08:21:14
Speaker 1
Yeah. So I'll hold that up. Let. Because you've got the zoom lens on yours so the camera can see it. That that's naughty right there on the front of Western angler. What. Use that phone that says up top left corner. October November 2002. So yeah, the other day, not just for just for the just that is fucked up the other day massive Spanish macro and I believe it is the, old tackle, the old tackle record or something like that or Mac club record.

01:08:21:15 - 01:08:36:02
Speaker 1
Gotcha. So I was at the Blue World a classic couple of weeks ago, people. And, I saw not his name on the board, so I shot him a text 39.5kg Spanish macro, which is huge. And he sends me back this photo.

01:08:36:04 - 01:08:37:12
Speaker 2
Of is it.

01:08:37:14 - 01:08:57:23
Speaker 1
Hands in the fish's gills. He's back arched, and I look like he's about to pop a valve trying to fucking lift this thing up. So tell us the story about this Mackey mate. That is huge.

01:08:58:00 - 01:09:01:05
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:09:01:07 - 01:09:06:05
Speaker 1
Big JT out there to,

01:09:06:07 - 01:09:34:19
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:09:34:21 - 01:11:01:22
Speaker 1
That's pretty similar to that.

01:11:01:24 - 01:11:02:24
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:11:03:01 - 01:11:32:19
Speaker 1
It's massive. So. Yeah. Western angle cover. You dropped a, golden nugget before he press record about, big fish cry, and you said something about the size of their gills. Oxygen and whatnot. I think that's a real value to our listeners who might want to catch trophy. Matt.

01:11:32:21 - 01:11:35:22
Speaker 1
Is that his actual last name?

01:11:35:24 - 01:11:37:19
Speaker 2
Fitting.

01:11:37:21 - 01:11:39:12
Speaker 1
You hired.

01:11:39:14 - 01:11:48:03
Speaker 2
Him.

01:11:48:05 - 01:12:30:12
Speaker 1
There you go. So, CEO of Redfish West.

01:12:30:14 - 01:12:41:04
Speaker 2
Oh! What? Do you do it. Yeah. Give it away.

01:12:41:06 - 01:13:06:17
Speaker 2
With him.

01:13:06:19 - 01:13:32:11
Speaker 2
Okay.

01:13:32:13 - 01:13:55:03
Speaker 2
Okay.

01:13:55:05 - 01:14:03:14
Speaker 1
I guess out. I got puffed.

01:14:03:16 - 01:14:05:03
Speaker 2
Well.

01:14:05:05 - 01:14:26:09
Speaker 1
So there you go. So there's a there's a little trick there. A little theory that may work. Maybe down rigging reef species is the way to catch big matches.

01:14:26:11 - 01:14:36:19
Speaker 1
Yeah, well, Owen Douglas said that his favorite bait for matches up in Broome is a stripy a lot. Yeah, yeah. Flag. Yeah. Spanish flag.

01:14:36:21 - 01:14:38:04
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:14:38:06 - 01:14:44:09
Speaker 1
Yeah. He reckons he always gets huge ones like.

01:14:44:11 - 01:14:45:23
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:14:46:00 - 01:15:01:20
Speaker 1
Yeah. Right. So Tim Barlow actually told me that the old tackle record or a Spanish wreck. Mako, you might be able touch on it. Craig is was actually out the back of Rod Owen. It was on a reef. Fish or snapper or something.

01:15:01:22 - 01:15:03:06
Speaker 1
Was it Rado?

01:15:03:08 - 01:15:10:03
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:15:10:05 - 01:15:11:18
Speaker 2
Gotcha.

01:15:11:20 - 01:15:12:07
Speaker 1
By Craig.

01:15:12:07 - 01:15:22:12
Speaker 2
Radford. Right?

01:15:22:14 - 01:15:39:06
Speaker 1
So it was for.

01:15:39:08 - 01:15:47:03
Speaker 1
Yeah, we might be might be heading out there and Tony.

01:15:47:05 - 01:16:05:14
Speaker 2
We might have to.

01:16:05:16 - 01:16:52:03
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So smooth.

01:16:52:05 - 01:17:00:09
Speaker 1
Yeah. Oh! Fucking nice. Naughty. And do not. I've got something. If he doesn't right himself, I've done some digging.

01:17:00:11 - 01:17:10:18
Speaker 2
Yeah, with that.

01:17:10:20 - 01:17:16:17
Speaker 2
That's okay. Matt.

01:17:16:19 - 01:17:17:06
Speaker 1
As we were.

01:17:17:06 - 01:17:32:04
Speaker 2
Retrieving.

01:17:32:06 - 01:17:32:20
Speaker 1
He's done it.

01:17:32:20 - 01:17:44:09
Speaker 2
Himself. But. We'll get you.

01:17:44:11 - 01:17:48:00
Speaker 1
That was the one that I. That was the one that Adam gave me.

01:17:48:02 - 01:18:12:06
Speaker 2
And then shocker.

01:18:12:08 - 01:18:26:12
Speaker 1
There you go. Like there's a side of it.

01:18:26:14 - 01:18:32:03
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:18:32:05 - 01:18:48:06
Speaker 2
We.

01:18:48:08 - 01:19:03:22
Speaker 2
Flipped that as.

01:19:03:24 - 01:19:25:19
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:19:42:10 - 01:19:46:03
Speaker 1
Yeah. You got lame bar at the front of your casting net for fly fishing.

01:20:14:02 - 01:20:16:04
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's.

01:20:16:06 - 01:20:17:04
Speaker 1
It's Craig Bradford. Leave him.

01:20:17:04 - 01:20:18:14
Speaker 2
Alone.

01:20:18:16 - 01:20:30:05
Speaker 1
You're right.

01:20:30:07 - 01:20:39:24
Speaker 1
I said the same thing. The lake. I was like. Because I actually was the one that encouraged him to post the photos when he's one. Where does he go? I just said, Matt, you got to get it out there before somebody else does.

01:20:40:01 - 01:20:49:06
Speaker 2
But if I.

01:20:49:08 - 01:20:50:00
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:20:50:02 - 01:21:04:05
Speaker 1
Yeah, I wanted to touch on it quickly. Like something that, passion that Craig and I share is photography. You, you have some amazing photos in that fishing in the Wild West. But how did photography, come into the picture for your life?

01:21:04:07 - 01:21:10:19
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:21:10:21 - 01:21:31:21
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:21:31:23 - 01:21:46:08
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:21:54:02 - 01:21:59:03
Speaker 1
How many slides you reckon you shot? What film stock. What was your go to film stock, by the way?

01:21:59:05 - 01:22:00:19
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:22:00:21 - 01:22:05:10
Speaker 1
None. Non-existent now. Yeah. The slide film.

01:22:05:12 - 01:22:12:11
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:22:12:13 - 01:22:20:00
Speaker 1
I've got one of those envelopes.

01:22:20:02 - 01:22:29:15
Speaker 2
Oh. Where?

01:22:29:17 - 01:22:49:17
Speaker 1
Yeah. At Actor Crime. You had velvet. Velvet? And then you had, What's the new one? Actor 100. Oh, no. Actor a 100 slide film. Yeah.

01:22:49:19 - 01:23:05:14
Speaker 1
I'd. I'd love to put them in a slide projector one day and have a show and tell.

01:23:05:16 - 01:23:15:15
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:23:15:17 - 01:23:34:13
Speaker 1
There you go. I've seen some amazing photos that Adam showed me. I hit him up for some tips on Kingfish locally, and he sent me some unreal photos. He actually told me that I haven't been, You've been holding on to him pretty tight, so I won't say. Yeah, just way taken the hooks off Luis and thrown him into the inshore race for Kingfish.

01:23:34:13 - 01:23:41:18
Speaker 1
Amazing photos like that. Like kingfish out of the water chasing these poppers without hooks on them and stuff.

01:23:41:20 - 01:23:51:17
Speaker 2
Wicked. Awesome.

01:23:51:19 - 01:24:00:20
Speaker 1
Nah, there's there's so many points on here that.

01:24:00:22 - 01:24:10:14
Speaker 1
I got one last question for you. Who's the best fisherman you've ever met?

01:24:10:16 - 01:24:33:23
Speaker 1
Ron Pierson. Okay, I'm gonna have to look that up.

01:24:34:00 - 01:24:39:08
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah. I'd be.

01:24:39:10 - 01:24:40:14
Speaker 2
I call.

01:24:40:16 - 01:24:41:08
Speaker 1
You a diehard.

01:24:48:24 - 01:24:56:01
Speaker 2
You did? Yeah.

01:24:56:03 - 01:25:02:10
Speaker 1
Or to catch a fish, if you're in the middle of the ocean.

01:25:02:12 - 01:25:05:12
Speaker 1
I thought he was going to say that. I thought you're going to spend it.

01:25:05:12 - 01:25:11:18
Speaker 2
I know I.

01:25:11:20 - 01:25:48:22
Speaker 1
Yes. Nice. That's mine too.

01:25:48:24 - 01:26:11:06
Speaker 1
Oh, have you listened to the Milhouse podcast? Noddy? Yeah. Great podcast. Yeah. Awesome podcast. You have to send me that one.

01:26:11:08 - 01:26:14:06
Speaker 1
Yeah, they're very inspired by that podcast.

01:26:14:08 - 01:26:32:07
Speaker 2
Well.

01:26:32:09 - 01:26:37:01
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:26:37:03 - 01:26:38:09
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:26:38:11 - 01:26:49:00
Speaker 1
Yeah. Put your ego aside and listen.

01:26:49:02 - 01:26:56:03
Speaker 1
Underground. Yeah. You'd never know.

01:26:56:05 - 01:26:57:23
Speaker 2
Yeah, I think.

01:26:58:00 - 01:27:18:24
Speaker 1
I think, you know, correct me if I'm wrong. It, Craig, that you probably just want to say that young kids. Kane and he's in it for the right reasons. He's not in it to post photos on his TikTok or his Instagram or whatever. He's he's there because he loves it.

01:27:19:01 - 01:27:52:01
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:27:52:03 - 01:28:12:04
Speaker 1
Yeah. Well. The banger. I reckon we'll end it on that, mate. But, Lake and I are talking about, cats out the back here, people. But we're we're going to release a YouTube video. We're going to start on YouTube, and, yeah, it should be a bit of fun. And one of the, the ideas for video that we had was like an I going to go fly fishing.

01:28:12:06 - 01:28:25:16
Speaker 1
That should be pretty funny. So I reckon we'll give you a call. Naughty. We can maybe mate down the local. Yeah mate, down the local pocket. You can show us a few tricks on how to cast a fly rod, make that. And it's been a pleasure to talk to you. I've been super excited to have this chat, mate.

01:28:25:16 - 01:28:40:16
Speaker 1
So appreciate you coming in. Awesome. Cheers. Naughty. Till Dale's.